YOU are a SUPER GENIUS! Thanks. The WT8840 Water Heater Control is designed for use in Standing Pilot applications using an immersion well for water temperature sensing. I also examined the circuit board and noticed a few minor differences, but I think the real problem was in the design and components. I suggest going all the way and getting rid of the old plastic sensor. when I drained it I observed no sediment ! The only material needed is one short jumper or piece of wire. WT8840 TRADE WATER HEATER CONTROLS 34-00013EF01 2 PLANNING THE INSTALLATION WARNING Fire or Explosion Hazard. 3: Snap the cover back onto the heater (so you can light the pilot-light). New valve on the way from Whirlpool. Maybe it should be Teflon coated if that interaction is suspect? You can get the pilot to light by pressing this button, but unless you address the underlying problem, the chamber will overheat and the breaker will trip again. 17 product ratings. I am thinking about replacing it with a propane tankless. This is how you can un-fault the Controller or make it check for a fault again (and clear the fault). This last time, that did not work which led me to this posting and Rauls simple fix. It took a while but I hope it is sufficient to extend the life of the valve. [] research briefly mention entertaining ? That happened (I think) because I turned the heat dial all the way up. Some people said touching the 2 top posts and you said top right and bottom one. Important to note, new wires were different colors! If the reset procedure needs to be repeated, I figure it can easily be done in less than 10 minutes. Look at a site like http://hometips.me/Mar/How-to-test-and-replace-Honeywell-gas-control-valve.pdf on how to remove the Controller circuit board (one screw and 3 tabs) and black control knob ( lean it to the side and it will pop out. Great just what I needed, obviously the plumber who installed the WH did not change the 30 yr old shut off valve at the same time! The two wires (red/white) pluged to the honeywell box front rightside, power the box, make sure the wires are not loose, refer to diagram, mine were loose had to reattach with tiny plyers. The first time I paid Sears their blood money. About to enter the fray and attempt the 4-blink DIY fix solution. Voltage Minimum: 350 mV dc, open circuit. This option is great because it saves you a lot of plumbing and headaches replacing the old valve. be similar to whats being discussed here, except my Whirlpool has electronic ignition and a flue damper that opens and closes. So, I set out to see if I could do a reset of some sort by scouring the internet. So, again Sears says they need to send a repair guy out. Picture:here, 4. Went back to buy a new thermostat. ! coming from me! An extremely tense situation with 2 women in the house, Monday morning (Wife and daughter) and no hot water was avoided by the above fix. I havent opened the valve yet out of curiosity but from what I read here, the Capacitor sounds like a good culprit. Although the Frankinvalving wasnt an option/didnt work, it did show me what I was up against, introduced me to others who have had the same problem and what everyones resolution was. Be sure the tank is flushed as much as possible. That is the valve mechanism. I have gone through several failures with this type of water heater (with the Hon. Appreciate the guidance. taken care of on my own. I took the circuit board completely out of the unit and let it sit for about an hour. I do believe I will call for my warranty replacement anyway as it is likely needed. Apparently cutting the power and going through the high-low setting twice is a reset procedure. At least then Ill have a stockpile when the water heater is out of warranty. Grow your service sales with the Honeywell WT8840. All working fine now. First, the Pilot has to be able to stay lit on its own and a fault blinks on the controller to continue. MaybeI also shook chicken bones over it and chanted. So thanks to commenters earlier, before, and above. There is no need to completely remove the board from the plastic control valve cover. you will get a 7 flash error. 1. An honorable mention here needs to go to Bob Robeson, who posted here as well, but it was his original post I found on waterheatertimer.org that set me onto a pathway of searching for another option after I was thoroughly disgusted with Sears/Kenmore Service, which would be more accurately described as Sales based on their approach to my concern. THANKS & GOD BLESS. After turning the heater off and shutting off the gas to the unit. In the meantime I figured the shutoff valve to the WH was not working then started to leak! Also, if a capacitor is all that is stopping the board from resetting it can be discharged by placing 1 leg to ground. Put it all back together and re-sealed the gasket with red (high temperature) RTV gasket sealer. any help would be welcome. Falcon Edge Self-Retracting Lifelines. I was told that you can use the yellow teflon and sealant for gas and water, but the water products do not work on gas. I released the pilot knob and advanced the setting to HOT and the main burner came on.. Yay. I have NEVER had a thermostat unit fail in 35 years of owning houses. F Im so mad I want to shoot the prick who cornered the market on Honeywells crap. ~ diy-home-projects.vwx.info, Home Projects: How Do I Remove This Exterior Water Valve Cap?. Many, many thanks for the previous posters comments that led to this fairly simple fix. Many thousands of these units replaced unneccessarily because of this coding error and the fact so few regularly do the tank flush. It saved me $150. Maybe a result of their desire to protect themselves against scald claims and the programmers misunderstanding of high hot might have to be to deliver hot at a faucet that is 75 feet from the tank and serviced by uninsulated lines? Honeywell said it is my fault because I failed to drain the sediment. A link in your article would have been nice. Finally this past week it was in the error mode and stayed there. They said it needs to be assessed by a factory authorized repairman. Set the dial to a reasonable temperature that wont upset the finicky little thing, and you should be good to go. It is interesting to note that 106F is normally just about as hot as you can stand in the shower. DO NOT BUY THIS THERMOSTAT! thanks for all the details you put in it. The dreaded 4 red flashes. All that Sears tried to do was sell me a warranty extension for $199. Few minutes later, gave me the all clearThermostat requiring heat (No faults). Started looking on line for a replacement and came across this site. I bought the rheem propane water heater6 months ago now its giving me problem 2 blinks every 3 secondsTHERMOPILE voltage low. Kenmore water heater purchased at OSH in 2012. Either solution is unacceptable. If youre under warranty this is easy though theyll probably charge you for shipping, and extra if you want it fast. Get it from e-bay, just look at picture to make sure it only has red & white wires to the right and NOwire to left side under COM.. Got the same 4 blinking lights Saturday . I had looked at it at 5am it was 7pm by the time I got to Lowes, thought he was wrong but trusted his input! I copied and pasted your instructions into word and saved the file. I am beyond pissed, Reliant has a warrantee but it dont cover parts!!! We are dealing with possible gas leak & explosion here guys! Thank you sooomuch and my daughter thanks you, hot water is a must for her. Two months later I drained out about 5-8 gallons, saw minimal sediment. Im just saying that you dont have to install the whole valve, but can just swap out the parts you need to make the old one work again. thank u CT. U and DB are $$ saversfor now anyway..LOL! Lady on phone said they werent aware of any problems but our heater still under warranty and would send us a new valve. Is there any non-Honeywell valve that we can use in place of the Edsel we have now? Big thanks from MN! Got a 7 blink code which cleared to a 1 blink normal code after a few minutes. It did not need to be reset (zero resistance across the terminals). Turns out painting and cleaning the basement tripped a code 7 flashes. If I had just changed out the circuit boards on the old control valve Id not have gained the better sensor. Like everyone else here I HAD the same issue yesterday. I really did not want to mess with wires inside so extremely glad this works for this controller. Please do this at your own risk. I then turned the gas valve to hot and it lit and ran. shut off the pilot and reconnect the 3 wire plug and but the cover back on. Press down on the plastic cover in front of the clips to release them. Thank goodness I found this site. Thank you so much Tyler for this website & Dan for the awesome reset solution & others who contributed their variations of that! okay at this point with circuit boardhave no clue..please step by step for dummies pleasecannot remove it from whitish housing.appears a screw of some sort and also something that looks like glass attaching to it? Pull the three wire connector off the circuit board by pulling it straight out. CORRECTING LAST SENTENCE: main valve (Right pin to (+), So I would recommend to you ( with Valve off the water heater and no gas applied, to test the pilot valve (left pin to (+))with the AA battery, and test the main valve (Right pin to (+)), and each individually should click, photo of pilot valve solenoid David Boone-you are a godsend. If the new valve is basically the same model as the old one, you dont need to pay a plumber to replace the evil valve. I re installed it and got the 7 flashes instead of the four flashes. I put a speaker wire on the positive then putthe board and on the water heater. It is obvious that they are making a killing on money selling this to just about every water heater brand out there. So far its been working fine. Had to have come Tuesday. This one honeywell water heater thermostat is completely a lemon.. OK just replace with newer updated green computer board without the sensor.. New ones dont have Sensor clip or wire. The Water heater will appear to be working now, but in a several seconds it will figure out that something is wrong, and it will shutdown the pilot valve and the fire will shut off. Pulled off the cover with the dial still on pilot position the pilot light died and the light didnt flash. The pins have very thin (about 28-30 gauge) wires that are going to electromagnetic solenoid that has a metal armature that covers a hole. But get this They now want owners to drain and flush their tanks every 6 months so calcium will not build up on the sensors! Well my tank is 15 months old and it is giving the 4 flash death sign, called everywhere for parts, can only get from Whirlpool and 3 days later. I had to do it 2 times, but it is now making hot water again. No battery, no removing of circuit board, just a short jumper wire. contact customer service and see . ; 4. Dead as a door knob. YES!!!!! This piece of junk is only 13 months old. I just duplicated the steps that Charles on 29 July, 2014 took. That sounds reasonable. Holy Crap DB! It replaces the old part numbers listed below. Lessons learned eh? Shipping to: 98837. They said they couldnt do anything about that. The Wt8840 Series Is The Water Heater Control For Trade Use to replace WV8840 valves on AO Smith water Heaters. The Whirlpool helpline says I have to replace the gas valve. It is also an adjustable regulator that insures proper gas pressure for combustion. But they knew nothing about that. Neither worked, the second board is now dead. Gas & Electric Water Heaters & Tankless Models | A. O. Smith Just make sure you label (or cell phone picture) where the wires go, to be able to return them, and then disconnect all the wires. Wish you had shown a pic of the screwdriver touching the 2 posts. Never had this problem with old fashioned hot water heaters. If they do fail, at least now, thanks to all your advice, Ill at least have a workaround to use while I fight with them for another replacement. This time I left the knob in the pilot position for 10 minutes. The next guy I talked to was very surprised that the Valve would be bad again so quickly so he had me go through a reset procedure. > little white reset button doesnt seem to have any effect!?! The valve is known to be defective and maybe they will help ? After reassembly and firing up the pilot there was a 4 code and a 5 code. The pilot (the flame is definitely more than a pilot) does stay on and slowly heats and with the therm set pretty low it will eventually satisfy demand and shut off, and repeat next time it needs heat. I guess Water heaters are now interactive devices requiring yearly maintenance. The main burner would go out without being up to temp (it may of been shutting off on the high limit ?) My question is.do I flush out the tank 1st before I do anything else.I have no idea on make and modelits raining here and I cant check on it since its on the outside of my homeI want to see if I can fix it myself before I need to pay or just all out replace it Can cause severe injury, death or property damage. After the pilot heats the thermopile, and the LED blinks, I released the Red knob but the pilot would not stay on. Time will tell. Take the front cover off. Could only see me in the eveningReading about what you guys have done. I have a slight modification to make it even easier!!! As I mention in the article, in bold red text, you have to make sure whatever caused the overheat is also fixed. I want to send you a gift..paypal?? I woke up on a Saturday morning to this issue and used your Fault Clear instructions and they WORKED! 3. What number did you call? I nervously turned the controller dial to the 9 oclock position, the burner burst to life, and today I have hot water again. Took the board out and just touched everything with the cross wire and let it sit. TH106 Honeywell Aube TH106 7 Day Programmable Line Amazon. It may take a minute or so before the heating element comes on; be patient. So this is the only site I could find regarding this stupid gas valve!!! The new honeywell gas valve is completely electronic. This should at least get you hot water and time to get another controller from like Amazon. Perhaps others with faulty valves may have begun their collapse in a similar fashion, but were not noticed until the hot water turned cold people dont usually babysit a water heater. Thanks for at least giving me some temporary hope (how to reset the white button) on my stubborn heater and for making me smile while you did it. I keep flushing the tank through a short piece of hose every week or so and the water out looks pretty clean now so Ill only do it once every six months or so to keep it clean. Search the page for How to un-fault a controller. Still working so far. Save honeywell wv8840b1109 to get e-mail alerts and updates on your eBay Feed. If they dont match the actual wire colors for whatever insane reason, notice which is which. These sensors, provide the fail-safe mechanism through which the, temperature control as well as water temperature. I believe I was getting 7 flashes until turning burner on and in a short time the flashes went to normal 1 flash. terminals that eliminate the need to splice and crimp wire, elliptical mounting holes, a large wiring channel that provides plenty of room to route wires and a convenient hinged case cover, our eas. Resetting the #$%@!! Thanks for the site.. Guys, this is a great post Thanks I FIXED IT but, make it EASY FOR DUMMIES after spending hours reading this I FOUND the EASIEST WAY to fix the 4 blink issue Just lit the pilot take out the plastic cover with the pilot on, do not disconnect any cords, use aflat-bladed screwdriver. just short (touch) the top 2 left pins( there is a set of 4 pins together use the 2 on the left) and the led light will go off and the pilot will shut off too, put the plastic cover back to the unit and DONE!! Got 7 blinking lights burner came on and back to 1 blinking light. That was their only solution. On one end make two tiny wraps to fit over the left and right pins on the valve under the cover like described elsewhere. If you need to look at the back to see how the tabs are arranged, look at the new valve. Normally, you just need to dump a gallon or two at the most to get the sentiment out of the bottom of the tank. On 21 November, 2014 I performed the fix that Charles described on 29 July, 2014. I dismantled the gas valve, measure the thermopile, and cant even get a few millivolts (granted, the pilot light isnt on, so maybe its normal). Miller Lanyards and Shock Absorbers. David Boone I Love You. Not sure if these links will come thru, however I took a few pictures of my replacement. They said they couldnt do anything about that. There is no pilot, it just ignites completely as needed with electronic ignitor. On the board? I had a power outage at my house and coincidentally (?) Oh well, hope your post saves people a lot of time and frustration. Thank you for posting this ! They didnt ask any questions or ask for the old one to be returned. The older controllers will reset this way. Worked like a charm! This worked for me! This is an excellent solution. While you have the old valve out, be sure to probe inside to see if you have gunk/sediment and/or crystals/salts. I am now an expert at gas valves. Im an Innkeeper with few local options for help or assistance and will be following some great advice here. (Published under a different name to sow maximal confusion). What the gas pressure has to do with a faulty temperature sensor is a mystery to me, and perhaps just part of their damage control process to delay things. Miller Air Core Oil and Gas Harness. Thank you so much!!! Thank you for the excellent instructions, they worked on the first try. Everything is good. Tankless sounds good to me, but Im not an expert just another hapless victim who has learned from experience one more thing not to do. DONT BUY THEM. Once you have the pilot lit and the pilot valve on, (faint click can be heard) all that is necessary to open the main valve is to jump (connect) the top left pin to the top right pin. you will get a 7 flash error. Rheems quality control gets low marks for the initial failure. Youre freaking awesome! But, the light on the control never starts flashing. The entire process from start to finish, including 2 stops to Lowes (once for tools, second for piping) and draining/refilling tank took over 2 hours. (For me it was the the inlet gas pipe on the valve.) The newer ones have been Fixed so they will not reset. Thank you! The result: Make sure all the wires are connected, turn on the gas and follow the steps in your water heater owners manual to relight the pilot light. Also turn the black dial to Off. I will Thats just over the Hot setting on their valve. Wouldnt it make more sense to not let the dial go that high? In that case, the pilot light will not stay lit and you do not get the four flashes. Right, my tank is just over 2 years old the number of posts here, Honeywell would do well to consider a recall and redesign. Honeywell has a scam going, I paid over $500,00 for my water heater and several hundred to have it installed, since day one I have had nothing but trouble with the Honeywell thermostat,gas valve. Thank you Pioneers, Thank you Tyler. I agree but the cheapest I have found a valve is $199.00 plus shipping and tax. New controller on the way but hot water is now flowing. I had worked on a water heater that was in a flooded basement and had to open up the sealed combustion chamber, remove the burner/pilot/ignitor/thermopile assembly and dry out the ignitor with a hair dryer for about 15 minutes before it was capable of showing a spark again. i called whirlpool(1877-817-6750), they are sending me the valve free of charge, but its gonna take a couple days to get here. 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